Hi John, Just read your last post, and couldn't agree more with your last point... I have just been and experienced my first ever TT, and wondered, "Why have I never done this when I was younger..?" Because life, work, and all the other commitments, have always got in the way..! I had a great time, in a group of nine ... Like yourself, I made sure I found the time to "do a lap" ... Apart from the obvious few who were insistent upon treating the day as their own personal track-day, it was an absolute delight to the mountain section, but at a speed I was happy with... It was a pleasant day, I had just met Steve, ( Manxie ), and his good lady wife... shared a pot of tea, and then had the Ramsey hairpin, Gooseneck, Kate's cottage, The Bungalow and Creg-ny-Ba mostly to myself... Only downsides... with doing it at a fair old speed, you don't get time to take in the view... and, it is all over far to quickly... Still, box ticked... Bye the way... the pictures of Steve's GB500 do not do it justice... in the flesh it is magnificent... Regards, Tony