Jethro's in a magazine again

[guest7]

Some of you may have read RobG's post about Back Street Heroes featuring the Dragon Rally. I saw the article today and whilst I was reading it I thought "That sounds familiar". It turns out the journalist had cut and pasted my explanation of what the Dragon Rally is from my website. He had just changed the odd adjective.

One bit that he left unaltered (somewhat bizarrely, given that he's pretending he wrote it) is the passage, "In some respects the Dragon is all about the stories you get to tell for the following year to incredulous fair-weather riders. As my friend Jethro says (in a creepy Brian Blessed voice), "It's an adventure"."

I reckon Jethro will be ringing Max Clifford soon... 

GC

[Bruce]

Did you not notice the picture of me and my school mate Ian Taylor who first did the Dragon as schoolboys in 1969 me on a BSA C15 and him on a Triumph Tiger Cub

[themoudie]

It turns out the journalist had cut and pasted my explanation of what the Dragon Rally is from my website. He had just changed the odd adjective.

I reckon Jethro will be ringing Max Clifford soon... 

GC

Aye GC,

"Journalist" surely a misnomer these days, Alistair Cooke, Mark Tulley, Ixion, JLK, et al were "Journalists".

The dumming down of motorcycle reading matter to two or maybe three sides of point 8 type, cut and pasted in Adobe, laid over the top of multi-coloured pictures or 'designer' atmospheric 'sepia prints', then selling the whole as a magazine. That's not journalism, its corporate bean counters joshing us. The 'Back Street Heroes' are about as 'back street' as Canary Wharf! 

I enjoyed reading your website article, I can't say "B*H" again, as I keep using expletives! From a positive perspective, well constructed, considerate, legible, factual articles, holding the readers attention, knowing this may lead to that hording of the publication affliction, are infinitely preferable.

Perhaps an entry on the B*H website, demonstrating plagerism and suggesting any fee payed should be re-directed towards 'Riders for Health', might restitute a nod toward their journalistic pretensions.

As for Jethro ringing Max, ***!!!!!!??***** ! Why should any individual motorcyclist want to encourage cloning?

Long may your third wheel rise and the employed ring of the Stalwarts spanners be heard!

Keep boppin', Bill.

[Andy M]

It turns out the journalist had cut and pasted my explanation of what the Dragon Rally is from my website.

I do hope you've given them a call and threatened to point out how they work to MCN and all their other competitors? A mag article is worth something like £300 a go, more with photographs. I'd say you are due at least some freebies and a serious plug for your website in the next issue.

Andy

[002]

As for Jethro ringing Max, ***!!!!!!??***** ! Why should any individual motorcyclist want to encourage cloning?

Nah ! Let it go !  Yet Another 15mins of fame for me !
As far as Cloning I think a few people would be a little upset at the prospect to put up with another one of me.
Some find it difficult with just the one !   


Jethro

[guest7]

Did you not notice the picture of me and my school mate Ian Taylor who first did the Dragon as schoolboys in 1969 me on a BSA C15 and him on a Triumph Tiger Cub

I saw that but didn't mention it because RobG mentioned it in his original post*... was the bubbly sufficiently chilled? 

As for Jethro ringing Max, ***!!!!!!??***** ! Why should any individual motorcyclist want to encourage cloning?

I know I'm showing my ignorance by asking this, but what does Max Clifford have to do with cloning?

Cheers
GC

*Where is Rob's first post about this? I had a good look but couldn't find it.

[themoudie]

As for Jethro ringing Max, ***!!!!!!??***** ! Why should any individual motorcyclist want to encourage cloning?

I know I'm showing my ignorance by asking this, but what does Max Clifford have to do with cloning?

Cheers
GC

*Where is Rob's first post about this? I had a good look but couldn't find it.

Reference for * = http://www.thumperclub.com/smf/index.php?topic=3042.0

As for my "Max Clifford, cloning" comment, I was trying to depict 002 as an individual, rather than another one of Max Cliffords 'Celebrities'! in spite of appearing or being quoted in glossy mags.

Jethro's reply of "As far as Cloning I think a few people would be a little upset at the prospect to put up with another one of me. Some find it difficult with just the one ! " I can only commisserate, working for an outfit which has offices adjacent to the labs where 'Dolly' was cloned and at one time being required on 4 differing jobs at once, "Where's Dolly?"  became a 'by name' for a time! I just hope Jethro and I avoid the arthritic affliction that finally put paid to her. 

Cheers GC, Bill.

[xbruby]

Graham, don't know about Jethro contacting Max Clifford but perhaps you should see a solitcitor as this looks like plagarism to me.

Bloody journos, if they cant write it themselves they either make it up or rip somebody else's work off instead!


Andy

Some of you may have read RobG's post about Back Street Heroes featuring the Dragon Rally. I saw the article today and whilst I was reading it I thought "That sounds familiar". It turns out the journalist had cut and pasted my explanation of what the Dragon Rally is from my website. He had just changed the odd adjective.

One bit that he left unaltered (somewhat bizarrely, given that he's pretending he wrote it) is the passage, "In some respects the Dragon is all about the stories you get to tell for the following year to incredulous fair-weather riders. As my friend Jethro says (in a creepy Brian Blessed voice), "It's an adventure"."

I reckon Jethro will be ringing Max Clifford soon... 

GC

[robG]

It was poorly done. Perhaps a few objectivly snotty e-mails to said publication may elicit a reply ?

Rob.

[guest7]

Graham, don't know about Jethro contacting Max Clifford but perhaps you should see a solitcitor as this looks like plagarism to me.
Bloody journos, if they cant write it themselves they either make it up or rip somebody else's work off instead!
Andy

I'm not sure I'm that worked up about it, it's quite flattering that he didn't change it much.

What annoys me is the fact that the front page of the website has a link to a note on copyright. This takes you to the following text:
Let's not beat around the bush, if you want to rip off any of this site then I can't stop you. Goodness knows, I've ripped off enough material myself.

All I ask is that if you do use anything on another site, then please could you include an acknowledgment and a link back to this site. For your convenience you can easily cut and paste the following:

© Graham Carrick
www.dragonrally.org.uk

Despite this they didn't even take the trouble to add a link to the various Dragon Rally sites that I'm guessing the jouranlist visited.

GC

[guest7]

As for my "Max Clifford, cloning" comment, I was trying to depict 002 as an individual, rather than another one of Max Cliffords 'Celebrities'! in spite of appearing or being quoted in glossy mags.

Aha, I thought it was that, but I also thought I'd better check first.

It's a shame he's not 'glossy' celebrity material, what a superb 'Hello!' feature that would be eh?
"At the end of our visit to his delightful home, Jethro kindly helped us to our car"


GC 

[guest27]

Well being a pointy g1t I did complain to Brick Sh1t House about ripping GC off...

Oh nice one - did you not think we could read.  The report on the Dragon Rally was lifted from a website written by someone who can string more than two words together at at time.

Would suggest that some serious grovelling is in line for slack journo and even slacker editor, and I trust the fee paid for stealing someone elses work will be returned from the slacker and paid on to the originator - or whoever  he suggests.

http://www.dragonrally.org.uk/whatisit.html

Does your lazy journo even know who Jethro is?

R

And they replied...

Dear Roger,

It was not Simon Everett who was the 'slack','lazy journo', as you eloquently describe him.

Actually, it was our fault and not Simon's. I believe Simon had spoken with Graham, and the idea was that the words should be credited to Graham - or, to be more precise, as we were dashing to press and had put the Dragon Rally in at the last moment and I didn't have Graham's name at the time, it should have been credited thus 'WORDS: Dragonrally.org.uk and Simon Everett.

Anyway, with the best laid plans of mice, men and folk running in hamster wheels, the credit got laid out as just Simon. (It's one of those glitches that does occur once in a while). I hold my hands up because I checked the proofs of the lay out and I missed it. Simon is mortified because it looks as if he was purloning someone else's words, which wasn't the case at all, especially after he'd had such a great time at the Dragon that the rest of us had forbidden him to mention it yet again. However, next time, we won't bother to try and bring people coverage of the Dragon Rally so swiftly, and will leave it until it can be so thoroughly honed as to ensure no offence to anyone.

There will be a correction in the next News pages. And I am now going outside to whip myself with birch twigs.

All the best

Blue


And I have responded...

OK

Fair excuse - I suggest that rather than whipping yourself with birch twigs you get some young beauty to do it - much more fun - and maybe she can then proff the proofs etc.

R

[guest27]

Ahh I have just been reliably informed that "Blue" prefers men to women.   Damn another potential fantasy ruined, being as she is a woman and all....


R

[themoudie]

Assumptions, very dangerous ! What a fickle world and feckless place the publishing trade can be. It just confirms my earlier comment "The dumming down of motorcycle reading matter to two or maybe three sides of point 8 type, cut and pasted in Adobe, laid over the top of multi-coloured pictures or 'designer' atmospheric 'sepia prints', then selling the whole as a magazine. That's not journalism, its corporate bean counters joshing us. The 'Back Street Heroes' are about as 'back street' as Canary Wharf!"

Chill, to say more will but open a festering wound, rather than a healing scratch!

Keep on boppin', Bill.

[robG]

Yes , I also had a reply from BSH .Same as that which was sent to Rog ,with one or two exceptions .In my reply I've suggested that the offending journo may be sent to cover the Elefentreffen next year ,to make up for the faux pas .

Tin .